The Rachel Maddow Show. 11, and Hayes' show is coming in . Rachel Maddow: -- nodding along. In her past career, Shaw clerked in the Supreme Court for. Rachel Maddow: Chris, it's very nice. Rachel Maddow: -- because you have free speech, but you ought to be recognized as a political actor and for the political threat you pose to our system, and there ought to be a response. One of her new projects is Rachel Maddow Presents: Ultra, a podcast all about the history of pre-World War II American fascism, and those who worked to stop it. I mean, the siege of Stalingrad, one of the most brutal, bloody things ever to happen in human war-making --, Chris Hayes: -- you know, they don't talk about the Hitler-Stalin Pact beforehand --. It kind of worked and he kind of broke it up. Rachel Maddow: That makes for a good booze ballad. And that was part of what was hard about drafting the podcast because you could do the whole thing on Coughlin and the Christian Front, right? When youre not on the confines of, like, well, were liberal democracy and what should the tax rate be, but rather how should we order all of society, fascist, communist, liberal democracy, people take this very interesting --, Chris Hayes: -- ideological journeys, I mean --. I mean, you can't have people who are afraid to tell you no, you can't. Chris Hayes: Well, no, thats fascinating. Is this a real story? I think there needs to be a bigger, broader anti-fascist movement where people actually have work to do every day and trying to --. I'm not spoiling it. Like, please, because thats like --. It is everything that I would have wanted. And they're right, like, they earned it. Chris Hayes: -- transparent work product in the world. Here's the thing, I'm in this weird thing where it's like I don't want to spoil it, but kind of have to talk about the content of the podcast. Chris Hayes: Oh it's the full pamphlet. You could do the whole thing on William Dudley Pelley in the Silver Shirts, which is a crazy story. Practical steps for Americans reading this who are concerned about this. "Chris has done an amazing job creating a franchise on weekend mornings," said Phil Griffin, the president of MSNBC. So that, to me, was like incredibly exciting. And who do they bring into that cleanup? So I was like --. Rachel Maddow: And so, I am working past midnight now instead of stopping working at --. And who did FDR fear more than any other rising leader in the United States was Huey Long. I just think we need some energy in it, and Im hoping, in some ways, that learning the history of other Americans who have done it well can give us some energy. And that means that the history of it, to the extent that there is any history of it, has been written by the right and by people who are sympathizers of the defendants --. I was really interested in some of the sort of deep, radical right, ultra-right stuff that was happening in the country in the post-World War II era leading into the Reagan era. And, to me, when I started to understand the story, that's when I felt like, "Oh, I need to make it right away.". ", Chris Hayes: Like, a round of applause for this, like --, Chris Hayes: -- please, yes. So to me, that's like the thing that I feel like I brought to this job that I've tried to hold on to and tried to build on, which is people are capable of absorbing any level of complexity and even obscurity if you do the work to get them there. So these sort of grand ideological battles, first against Nazis and fascism, then against communism, and then of course, like, the ultimate victory of liberal democracy as a kind of like teleological story about human development, which we basically all get, like, whether we know it or not --. Chris Hayes: I don't know whose secretary is. That was 1940, and then by 1941, we were in World War II, and we moved on. Theyre only being persecuted now as payback for all the evil things they have done, social justice. Here in the televisual medium for a very, very special, exciting episode, I'm going to start with a sports metaphor, if you'll indulge me. But no sooner did they move to New York City. A Goodwill branch has, too. You can also watch "The Rachel Maddow Show" on Monday nights. So --. Are you a prosecutor working in the southern district of New York whos, you know, deciding whether or not the FBI thats not interested in these things could be trusted to infiltrate these groups or whether or not youre going to tap these outside activist groups and take their information to build your prosecution around? Chris Hayes: And that's something that comes through in the story you're telling in a way that, I think, we really don't think enough about. Do you buy the explanation of the presence of the swastika on the desk? Rachel Maddow: You can express them, and you can --. Rachel Maddow: The clan is a fascist terrorist movement --, Rachel Maddow: -- in this country. There were 130 million Americans in terms of our population at the time, 30 million of them every week were listening to him. . pic.twitter.com/h6uNdmCT2q, Aldous Huxleys Ghost (@AF632) October 5, 2022, TexZeus (@vinnieoftexas_) October 4, 2022. Rachel Maddow joins Chris Hayes to talk about her new podcast, how we can use history to make sense of current events, what it's like to be covering the news in this political moment. Rachel Maddow: Dont tell anybody though. And some are doing extremely well, like at an incredibly high level, playing Major League Baseball. That's awesome. Chris Hayes: They sacrificed tremendous amount of bloodshed. Chris Hayes: I knew a little bit about the Nuremberg controversy, or not really a controversy but people that objected to Nuremberg. And now you're working harder than you were working at the job that was killing you before. The presence of a hate symbol in a picture of two liberals mugging for the camera was too much to ignore. Chris Hayes and Rachel Maddow don't really get along, do they? And sedition is, therefore, very hard to prove because anybody whos on trial for sedition --, Rachel Maddow: -- did not have an effective --, Rachel Maddow: -- seditious plan. Chris Hayes: -- its a very good compelling story. As threats to American democracy abound, theres more that has to be done to save it, said Maddow in our exclusive podcast interview. And then everyone starts doing it differently or some people try to do it differently, even if they're not quite as good. And actually, it's amazing, you know, that the Oath Keepers sedition trial is going on --, Rachel Maddow: -- right now. But the reason the Justice Department put them on trial is bananas and is totally worth telling, and is an incredibly resonant snapshot of a previous iteration of the allure of authoritarianism in this country and what it took to fight it. And so, we had to decide whether or not this was the enemy within. Hes a big enough deal that had he decided to leave the priesthood and run for office and hes --. Chris Hayes, Washington editor for the Nation, is sitting in for Rachel Maddow tonight. I think you and I cherish it, not everyone does, but that theres some really important lines here about you can write a pamphlet saying Donald Trump should. Rachel Maddow: Like, you and I have talked about this over the years, about how important that is and how you make sure with your staff there's an expectation that nobody is working through the weekend --, Rachel Maddow: -- yes, stuff comes up and there's --. Chris Hayes: And you basically got to just constantly work at it, which I think is both more realistic and not the story were told, but is very much illustrated by the story you are telling. Rachel Maddow: -- how many Americans are paying attention to him. You made me meet me half the feelings. And then the prosecutor said they continued their plot. Rachel Maddow: Right. Rachel Maddow: A bad guy needing to be opposed by force to save you, your family and all that you hold dear. And here he is, like, arguing for (inaudible) --. And the Justice Department, I think, was onto something in terms of the way those things were connected. Like the people who are listening are like, "Wait, who's the senator?". Rachel Maddow: Trying to take power by force. I'm happy to read it. But he writes from an interesting perspective about the theology of Coughlin --, Rachel Maddow: -- and the sort of struggle in the church in terms of when they were going to pull the plug on him and why. Doni Holloway: It was about events of historical significance compared to today. That deal will give Maddow, the highest-rated host on MSNBC, a jaw-dropping $30 million per year to keep her with the company through the 2024 election, according to four people familiar with the matter. Chris Hayes: You have this detail about he reprints -- Goebbels --. Rachel Maddow: -- stockpiling bombs and detailed plans. I brought you the whole thing. Maddow seeks to explain our complex world and deliver news in a way that's illuminating and dynamic, connecting the dots to make sense of complex issues. So having her name --. And then you talk about somebody you seen as like running the ideological member line, right? Rachel Maddow: Yes, and that's got a whole lot of technical elements to it, like, dont --, Rachel Maddow: -- dont use too many proper nouns that are --, Chris Hayes: -- magicians trick, it really is, like --, Rachel Maddow: -- but you know how to do it. Justice Department can only speak through its actions in court. It is a fascist myth to believe that you need a strong man to lead a fascist movement where you need is people who have an appetite. The Huey Long guy who lost the Christian Front trial. And also the theology around tyranny and sedition, being a nuanced thing that Coughlin was very cognizant of and was playing with, even as his followers were being put on trial for sedition for having them what he told them to do. Culture Rachel Maddow Coronavirus MSNBC TV. So that idea of accountability, like there is a role for institutions like the church. "The Last Word With Lawrence O'Donnell" and "All In With Chris Hayes" were 37th and 38th, respectively. She'll still appear on MSNBC, just not as often. Into America. When Alex Wagner debuts her new MSNBC show on Tuesday, she will be taking on an unusual arrangement . I want people to listen. But I find it really interesting, so you're along for the ride. Chris Hayes: -- word for word Goebbels's speech in his newsletter. 715: March 20, 2019 () Paul Giamatti, Senator Doug Jones: Aparna Nancherla: Doin' It Donkey Style. We have all this stuff. Rachel Maddow and new MSNBC host Chris Hayes had a candid discussion about the difficulties of their jobs on the Sunday edition of Hayes' new show, "Up." To be clear, neither host was complaining about the burden of being paid a hefty salary to host a television show about things that interested them. Chris Hayes: -- senator from Minnesota. And I have, I feel it emotionally, right, that like the criminal justice system should be able to sort this out and issue some definitive declaration about what is and isnt in bounds, what is and is not a transgression. Fritz Kuhn is the head of the German American Bund, and he does get locked up as the U.S. is heading toward war in World War II. And then someone comes along, they just like do it differently. Chris Hayes speaks with MSNBC anchor, author and friend Rachel Maddow about her new podcast, "Rachel Maddow Presents: Ultra" and more. . Right. By MSNBC staff. Eleanor Roosevelt is writing a newspaper column, at the time, as first lady. That's the very first words (ph) --, Chris Hayes: See, I'm doing the thing right now because we're talking about it. And the same agents in the Hitler government, operating through the same channels, was doing both of those things simultaneously. Meanwhile, MSNBC's All in with Chris Hayes drew 1.57 million at 8 pm and Last Word averaged 1.79 million at 10 pm. The Trump Archive, launched in January 2017, was the first such collection.. I think we're capable of it. Chris Hayes: More of our conversation after this quick break. He is encouraging America that the leaders we need to be emulating are Mussolini and Franco, and he calls for his followers to form armed militia cells to train with weapons, to go the Franco way, to go the way of fascism in this country. Are you the local activist whos worried about people getting beat up outside this sort of antisemitic street meetings? This is extremely exciting. Rachel Maddow: -- for a lot of the time that he was arguing this. He goes to Germany. ELIJAH SCHAFFER (@ElijahSchaffer) October 5, 2022, Whats going on with the German National Socialist propaganda, Chris? And the justice department in the wake of Longs assassination sent a prosecutor down to Louisiana basically to go bust up Hue Long machine to root out not only his vestiges of dictatorial power, but also bust all the corruption that he had left behind, which was profound. And there are Americans who went before us who were as smart or smarter, as funny or funnier, more nimble, more interesting, more capable, and who saved us from this last time around, and we should learn how they did it. Thats a very compelling story. Rachel Maddow: -- and you were working this hard. . And I think this first entered my consciousness in the Philip Roth book, "The Plot Against America" --, Chris Hayes: -- which is fictional, but also when you read it, it's a fictional counter-history in which Charles Lindbergh runs for president as essentially a kind of Nazi sympathizer, essentially America first. Rachel Maddow: And then you were in local morning radio and working this hard, and then you were working for the ACLU --. Chris Hayes: I told her she's going to hate that (ph), but it is true. Quiz: Photo of Rachel Maddow or Photo of Chris Hayes? Doni, do you remember what you told him? I'm in Rachel's head, and I'm in her world." Its hard. I think were capable of it. Offsite Link by Anonymous reply 24 May 21, 2020 12:04 AM They are best friends. After Maddow's nine-week sabbatical, she returned to The Rachel Maddow Show on April 11 and made it official for her viewers: They'd have her four nights a week through the end of the month,. He is also the host of the Up with Chris Hayes show which airs on weekends. Rachel Maddow: That's why I'm always up after midnight working on this stuff. I think that American journalism is strong and has all the right instincts and can lead. blend together . He served like nine months, wrote Mein Kampf --, Rachel Maddow: -- perfected his ideas of propaganda as being the way to not just seize power but hold power, came out, took him 10 years, and within --. In the "National Day of Racial Healing: An MSNBC Town Hall," MSNBC's Chris Hayes, Joy Reid and Trymaine Lee talk with activists, journalists, artists and experts to explore the harm racism has caused in our society, and to consider how we might heal from it. But those folks didn't change their views once the Japanese bombed us in Hawaii. So all that said, it is a great pleasure to have the one and only Rachel Maddow. And then in 1914, he had nine. Chris Hayes: That, like, a lot of times you come in, you're talking to a spouse or a friend or a therapist, and you're, like, talking about things in your life. And you need the prosecution, you need the investigation, you need the Justice Department to be engaged in things like this, but it's actually not the solution. Rachel Maddow: -- fight fascism and save the country. But compartmentalization is important so that you can work this intensely. I mean, they were in control but also profoundly corrupt. I mean, yeah, weve got really radical right-wing media, but we dont have anything like that. Rachel Maddow: -- they're defeated and gone. He gets on the air in the United States just after Kristallnacht, and basically says, yeah, the Jews had it coming. But I have to ask. 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